I was stationed at the 778th AC&W Squadron in Havre Montana, I was with the party that opened the base when it was first built, I was a carpenter and had to build the desks for the officers because the desks that they ordered were on backorder. Our commanding officer was Major Crombie.

For John L. Gladden: Pls reply with ur mailing address and I will send 931st patch to you... Aaron Allen/931 `59-60.

For anyone who is interested, a copy of Air Force Manual 52-8 (Radar Circuits and Analysis) is available for sale over the internet for $20.00. It is a 1959 edition and has lots of info about vacuum tube circuits, etc. As I recall, this is the manual I studied prior to taking the 5 level test for 30352. go to www.indybooklady.com and look under Science and Technology

40 years later, an Air Force officer found and identified in Viet Nam. Should remind all of us how fortunate we are to be posting on Radomes. www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/14894435.htm

IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT WAS STATIONED AT THE 756TH AC&W SQDN. AT FINLAND MINNESOTA OR THE 664TH AC&W IN BELLEFONTAINE OHIO. PLEASE EMAIL ME. I WAS STATIONED AT BOTH PLACES IN THE 1950`S. I NOW RESIDE IN BELLEFONTAINE OHIO. LARRY

Some random Keesler memories, circa 1971: A beer was 25 cents at the airmen’s club. Sometimes there were “2 for 1” nights, so a dollar could get you hammered. Woe betide you, though, if walking drunkenly back to the dorms in sight of the SPs. Thus you would see comic opera Groucho walks when spotlights fell on guys trying not to stroll like an inebriate. Seeing the movie “Woodstock” in the base theater for the first time and meeting lots of guys who said they were there. Debating whether Hendrix “Star Spangled Banner” was patriotic or not. Pranks: Walking down a hall in one of those two-story wooden barracks on the main base, seeing a couple of guys get in an argument, push each other, one guy pulls out a gun and shoots the other, who falls down. I told the guy, “You are in so much f-ing trouble, man, why’d you shoot him?” Turned out it was a starter pistol. Seeing the Who in New Orleans, so loud it was painful, had my fingers in my ears for most of the concert. Still, I think the best live band of that period, bar none. Some kids said they’d watch our car for a few bucks. Being young and stupid, we said we’d kick their a** if anything happened to the car. Drove some 90 miles back to Keesler with no windshield afterward, long and cold. I used to be able to speed-read in those days and tell my roommates, I will read this book (those short tech school things) twice this morning before the test and pass, and did, with two exceptions. One was tubes. 6.3 volts I think was filament voltage but someone will correct me, I am sure. Tech students always had the best stereos, some of which were ingenious and very impressive for the size of dorm rooms. I recall going down a hall once and hearing a band with what sounded like guitar, recorders, organ, and the fellow told me it was “Yes,” “I’ve Seen All Good People.” I think was the title. I used to play chess with guys then I think is why it attracted me.

More about my time at Keesler was assigned to 3396th Squadron in Triangle Area. I was in a room with just two beds. Don`t remember roommate. During Basic Training Classes were show several Films about History of the Air Force & a 1956 version of Fire Power Demonstration that used to be at Eglin AFB every year. Never forgot destructive difference between Bomb loads of B-17, B-29 & B-36. No jet bombers shown I can remember. Then at end of film was shown the new Vulcan 20mm Cannon. It blew an F-86 Saber Jet apart in one short burst. The one of the TI`s a T/SGT at Keesler was a WWII Infantry man. He was explaining about what medals represented one day when he told us that the Air Force did not want him to wear his Combat Infantry Badge because it was not an Air Force Medal. But he said it was not against regulations and that it meant more to him than any of his other medals. He had two rows. He said he had only two more years and he was going to retire and he was going to wear the Combat infantry Badge no matter what. During Basic when marching I was behind the Flight Leader from my flight at Lackland. I think he was chosen because he was the tallest in flight. He had rarely marched at Lackland as he almost always walked with the TI`s. He couldn`t stay in step so I was always kicking him in the heels. After Two weeks he could stay in step most of the time. We got to run the little obstacle course at Keesler only once too short more fun at Lackland. I was assigned to C shift night classes at Radar Operators School. We had a White Rope Two Yellow and Four Red Ropes. Were told they were equivalent as far as we were concerned to M/SGT,T/SGT & S/SGT. Not that they were equal to those ranks or even out ranked A/2c or A/1C as we were all A/B. Did not see see or know about Green or Blue Ropes. We marched every afternoon around end of flight Line to class and back after dark at first but soon in day light. Glad my Lackland Flight Leader was not in my Shift. I Remember I marched behind Harold H. Horney tall guy from California, In afternoons when sun was low & setting with high humidity of Gulf Coast he would have a Rainbow of sweat particles around his Head. The C shift at school was split into different classroom. Each classroom had a class leader who was the person in Classroom with the highest score on test each week. We were given 1 round Red Epaulet to wear on our uniforms almost always Fatigues. If you didn`t score highest on next test it was given to the person who did. If more than one person had same high score the person that was highest the previous week kept the epaulet until someone made a higher score. I was class leader of my class every week we were in school. One Funny and could have been a Deadly incident occurred on an afternoon march. There were always a couple of Lieutenants that marched the C Shift to Class and back to the Triangle Area. One Afternoon we had two 2nd Lt`s they decided it was too long to march around the end of the flight line to get to classes so they decided to find them a short cut. They called Flight Operations to see if it was permitted to march across the flight line to school. OK if no A/C were taking off or landing. We started Marching across Runway from second Street in Triangle Area. All was OK until just as we were half way on the taxi strip from runway to Flight Operations Building. A C-47 Landed and turned onto the Taxi strip behind us. Lieutenants yelled run in formation. We made it to Flight Line and C-47 turned toward Terminal. The Lt`s halted the formation and got it back in order. Just at that time the OD a Major arrived in a follow me jeep. He put those Lt`s at attention and Chewed them out right there for doing such a stupid thing as us marching across the Runway at that time of day, as there were several A/C from one of the Keesler Schools landing at that time. Don`t remember what school that used A/C as class rooms. No more short cuts to school. After School Started we only had basic for a couple of weeks to finish in the morning. Had open ranks inspections & PT every morning except Sunday. Didn`t get passes until last two weekends more on that later. A couple times on Friday nights went to Airman`s Club better than Tyndall`s the only other big A Club I went to. One Friday night the A Club had the group The Champs just as their only hit song Tequila became Number # 1 on hit parade. Saw them once more a month before I was discharged from Air Force. It was in a second rate club just before you get to Panama Beach Florida. Then they disappeared. Heard they broke up and later became parts of two other Famous Groups not sure which. The next weekend there was a black group that was much better can`t remember Name but the woman singer had a great voice. That night I got Drunk for the first time in Air force drank one Quart of Beer. I don`t like Alcoholic Beverages but will drink them very seldom. Prefer hard liquor rather than beer so I can Drown liquor with soft drink. Me and several of my buddy`s almost got thrown off bus back to Triangle Area that night. Next Morning during open ranks inspection after the TI`s passed me and were on the next row I threw up. They thought heat had got me me so sent me to sit under PT platform in that little shade. I was alright after I got the beer out. About Music you didn`t have to have radio if you liked Rock and Roll. All you had to do was walk down street in Triangle Area an you could hear songs on WTIX New Orleans from beginning to the end and even some Country & Western music but not like WTIX. This has been long winded enough so I`ll stop and tell some more about my time at Keesler later. Dan Cameron

I was stationed at the 702nd. Radar Sq. on Hunter Field in Savannah Ga. from January 1967 until December 1968. I was crew chief of the scope section on the FPS26. I have talked with some of the guys I was there with and a reunion is planned for July 8, 2006 in Savannah.I am interested in joining Radomes, Inc. Sincerely John A. Key

Thank you. Really :) I was very pleased and amazed to find this site!

Anyone lurking here who was at the 637th Radron, Othello, WA, late 62 through mid 65? Or the 932nd ACWron, Rockville, Iceland, mid-65 to mid-66? Drop a line and say `hello.`

Looking for any info on the 849th AC&W Squadron. Would like to know the location and what years they were in operation. Have found a patch marked on the back `849 AC&W`. It`s a new one to me.

84 RADES change of command is scheduled for 30 Jun, 0900. All old RADES folks are welcome. The squadron will recive its 21st AF Outstanding Unit Award, too. The RADES was realigned on 1 Oct 2005 under the 505 Command & Control Wing from Hurlburt Field, FL.

Tiger Woods caught the gallery by surprise when he teed off for a practice round a half-hour late and on the other side of the golf course, a corridor of fans and onto the first tee at Winged Foot.

Father’s Day: Now that short videos are commonplace, perhaps it would be possible to get a selection of declassified scope displays, if in fact such things were stored somewhere and available as historical documents? It would be interesting to show our kids and grandkids what a heightfinder display looked like, or a SAGE display, or a mobile radar video. Imagine a SAGE “greatest hits” video collection of the remarkable or historic? Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I thought some of the displays were actually beautiful (having to maintain them!), as well as interesting as applied physics. Imagine a videogame, “SAGE Operator,” “You must decide what to do when unidentified returns enter your area. What receivers do you deploy as they drop chaff and jam your radar?” Sounds like museum display. Running rabbits, anyone? I watched not too long ago a PBS program on the Battle of Britain, which showed a radar display, turned up so high the display “bloomed.” I thought, good they showed the radar, bad that it was basically like looking into a flashlight and not my impression of a display. (Maybe the old stuff was different?) Hey, isn’t is time “The Invention that Changed the World” was made into a series? Hello, PBS, or History Channel? Radar is generally considered dull, but computer recreations of the developments – now is the time! Update it to Joint Stars and you have a heck of a story.

To Gary---I agree totally with your post. Although, in my experience, I have usually found people`s eyes `glazing over` when I spend more than a few minutes explaining what I did `back in the day.` One of the great values of Radomes is that Tom & Gene have provided a link `preserving the memory.` There is a wealth of information here for someone who might want to undertake a project such as you suggest. If that doesn`t happen, we still have a place (Radomes)for the `old timers` who operated and maintained state of the art air-defense equipment that defended against enemy bomber attacks during the cold war.

Another good game would be `Find the Burned Out Filament in a 6414 on the back of an FST-2 cabinet` Just show the cabinet with the doors open , in a darkened room. That was one of our best troubleshooting devices. Best to all, Walt

Let’s up the ante for our radar television series. A ship launches cruise missiles off the coast of the United States. How do we detect them? What do we do? (Bear in mind now a single light plane approaching Washington, D.C., brings government business to a halt.) A foreign power launches ICBMs at the United States. How do we detect them? What do we do? Change the location. India attacks Pakistan with bombers, cruise missiles or surface-to-surface missiles. How does Pakistan detect them? What do they do? Up the ante even more. Some missiles/planes are real, others are decoys? Ground radars, known locations, are jammed/destroyed? Adjunct: Development of expensive and presumably effective stealth technology. `The Invention that Changed the World` won WWII, gave us SAGE, in some respects, the Web, the Internet, and poses important, crucial questions for the future.

84 RADES change of command is scheduled for 30 Jun, 0900. All old RADES folks are welcome. The squadron will recive its 21st AF Outstanding Unit Award, too. The RADES was realigned on 1 Oct 2005 under the 505 Command & Control Wing from Hurlburt Field, FL.

Father’s Day: Now that short videos are commonplace, perhaps it would be possible to get a selection of declassified scope displays, if in fact such things were stored somewhere and available as historical documents? It would be interesting to show our kids and grandkids what a heightfinder display looked like, or a SAGE display, or a mobile radar video. Imagine a SAGE “greatest hits” video collection of the remarkable or historic? Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I thought some of the displays were actually beautiful (having to maintain them!), as well as interesting as applied physics. Imagine a videogame, “SAGE Operator,” “You must decide what to do when unidentified returns enter your area. What receivers do you deploy as they drop chaff and jam your radar?” Sounds like museum display. Running rabbits, anyone? I watched not too long ago a PBS program on the Battle of Britain, which showed a radar display, turned up so high the display “bloomed.” I thought, good they showed the radar, bad that it was basically like looking into a flashlight and not my impression of a display. (Maybe the old stuff was different?) Hey, isn’t is time “The Invention that Changed the World” was made into a series? Hello, PBS, or History Channel? Radar is generally considered dull, but computer recreations of the developments – now is the time! Update it to Joint Stars and you have a heck of a story.

To Gary---I agree totally with your post. Although, in my experience, I have usually found people`s eyes `glazing over` when I spend more than a few minutes explaining what I did `back in the day.` One of the great values of Radomes is that Tom & Gene have provided a link `preserving the memory.` There is a wealth of information here for someone who might want to undertake a project such as you suggest. If that doesn`t happen, we still have a place (Radomes)for the `old timers` who operated and maintained state of the art air-defense equipment that defended against enemy bomber attacks during the cold war.

Another good game would be `Find the Burned Out Filament in a 6414 on the back of an FST-2 cabinet` Just show the cabinet with the doors open , in a darkened room. That was one of our best troubleshooting devices. Best to all, Walt

Let’s up the ante for our radar television series. A ship launches cruise missiles off the coast of the United States. How do we detect them? What do we do? (Bear in mind now a single light plane approaching Washington, D.C., brings government business to a halt.) A foreign power launches ICBMs at the United States. How do we detect them? What do we do? Change the location. India attacks Pakistan with bombers, cruise missiles or surface-to-surface missiles. How does Pakistan detect them? What do they do? Up the ante even more. Some missiles/planes are real, others are decoys? Ground radars, known locations, are jammed/destroyed? Adjunct: Development of expensive and presumably effective stealth technology. `The Invention that Changed the World` won WWII, gave us SAGE, in some respects, the Web, the Internet, and poses important, crucial questions for the future.

A good site for information about Flag Day. www.usflag.org/history/flagday.html

In the fall of 1976 I got orders from Keesler to go to Caswell AFS, Maine. A classmate had orders to Makah AFS, WA and we traded assignments. That was one of the best duty assignments I was ever at and never thanked the guy I traded with, and of course I can`t remember his name. If he enjoyed Caswell half as much as I did Makah, it will have been a good trade. Thank you, wherever you are. Part of me will always wonder what it would have been like at Caswell. Maine is also an incredibal state. I recently returned from a vacation where I took my family to Neah Bay and saw the old base, Neah Bay, and Cape Flattery. The tribe has taken over the lower base and the buldings are pretty much the same except the old club has been replaced. The area is as beautiful as ever.

A good site for information about Flag Day. www.usflag.org/history/flagday.html

In the fall of 1976 I got orders from Keesler to go to Caswell AFS, Maine. A classmate had orders to Makah AFS, WA and we traded assignments. That was one of the best duty assignments I was ever at and never thanked the guy I traded with, and of course I can`t remember his name. If he enjoyed Caswell half as much as I did Makah, it will have been a good trade. Thank you, wherever you are. Part of me will always wonder what it would have been like at Caswell. Maine is also an incredibal state. I recently returned from a vacation where I took my family to Neah Bay and saw the old base, Neah Bay, and Cape Flattery. The tribe has taken over the lower base and the buldings are pretty much the same except the old club has been replaced. The area is as beautiful as ever.

611th ac&w japan. anyone else been there?

611th ac&w japan. anyone else been there?

In 1960 or 1961 at Murphy Dome Alaska, after a mid night shift, 2 airman decided to go hunting. I can`t rember their name @ this time but one was accidently shot and killed by the other.They went down the hill behind the garbage dump about 1/2 mile. One got stuck in the snow and handed his rifle( barrel first) to his buddy and it discharged striking him under the arm as he was trying to pull him out of the snow. He pulled himself out of the snow and made his way back up and it took almost an hour to climb up the hill and in a panic reported the accident.Myself and Larry Shriver (N. Dakota and Eugene Reilly (Montana) went down the hill to help. We tried CPR but he had died.By the time we had gotten to him more hour had passed,but there was no way we could have gotten down any quicker. A helicopter from Ladd AFB, Fairbanks came and pulled him up to the undersider side of the a/c and left with him that way. The young man killed was married and had a small child at home.He was only about 20 years old.The crew and many others collected money and sent it to his widow. She wrote back thanking us.I still can`t remember his name or where he was from. The airman that accidently shot him did not stay at Murphy Dome after that. He was shipped out shortly after and did not finish his tour at Murphy Dome. I can`t remember his name either. He also was about 20 years old and both were A/2C. If any one stationed at Murphy Dome or any other base or site in Alaska that remembers this incident please send me an e-mail. I am not good at remembering names but do remember Larry Schriver because he contacted me several years ago while traveling thru south Louisiana. He retired as a M/SGT and retired again from the insurance business..Neither one of us have been able to contact Eugene Reilly of Butte, Montana. Larry and I were both A/1C and Reilly was A/2C at the time. Reilly made A1C before leaving Murphy Dome. Reading the e-mails sent by old AF personel really jogs the old brain cells, and all of a sudden you can relate and remember things that have long ago been forgotten..Thanks Joe Dohmann

Interested to see what we former `scope dopes` might be doing today if we were eligible to enlist? Go to CNN for a very interesting article on the Predator and the airmen who `manage` them. www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/06/09/sadler.predator.btsc/index.html

In 1960 or 1961 at Murphy Dome Alaska, after a mid night shift, 2 airman decided to go hunting. I can`t rember their name @ this time but one was accidently shot and killed by the other.They went down the hill behind the garbage dump about 1/2 mile. One got stuck in the snow and handed his rifle( barrel first) to his buddy and it discharged striking him under the arm as he was trying to pull him out of the snow. He pulled himself out of the snow and made his way back up and it took almost an hour to climb up the hill and in a panic reported the accident.Myself and Larry Shriver (N. Dakota and Eugene Reilly (Montana) went down the hill to help. We tried CPR but he had died.By the time we had gotten to him more hour had passed,but there was no way we could have gotten down any quicker. A helicopter from Ladd AFB, Fairbanks came and pulled him up to the undersider side of the a/c and left with him that way. The young man killed was married and had a small child at home.He was only about 20 years old.The crew and many others collected money and sent it to his widow. She wrote back thanking us.I still can`t remember his name or where he was from. The airman that accidently shot him did not stay at Murphy Dome after that. He was shipped out shortly after and did not finish his tour at Murphy Dome. I can`t remember his name either. He also was about 20 years old and both were A/2C. If any one stationed at Murphy Dome or any other base or site in Alaska that remembers this incident please send me an e-mail. I am not good at remembering names but do remember Larry Schriver because he contacted me several years ago while traveling thru south Louisiana. He retired as a M/SGT and retired again from the insurance business..Neither one of us have been able to contact Eugene Reilly of Butte, Montana. Larry and I were both A/1C and Reilly was A/2C at the time. Reilly made A1C before leaving Murphy Dome. Reading the e-mails sent by old AF personel really jogs the old brain cells, and all of a sudden you can relate and remember things that have long ago been forgotten..Thanks Joe Dohmann

Interested to see what we former `scope dopes` might be doing today if we were eligible to enlist? Go to CNN for a very interesting article on the Predator and the airmen who `manage` them. www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/06/09/sadler.predator.btsc/index.html

Sorry... but I am still learning how to send e-mails to the organization...This is for John Daniel Cameron.Your Louisiana stop from Lackland to Keesler sounds like Opelousas,Louisiana,my old home town. The name of the club(diner) you stopped at was the Southern Club.It was about 2 miles west of Opelousas.The building did indeed look like a country store, but in reality was a bar, diner and dance hall. It was on Hwy 190 which was the only hwy you could travel in south La. to go east or west..This was before interstate hwy`s were in use..I witnessed many airmen stopping there as a youngster.The Southern Club also trained many a prospective airman how to eat,drink,dance and fight for later life in the Air Force..Thanks for the story of the famous Southern Club in Opelousas, Louisiana which now days is only a memory..Joe Dohmann

Sorry... but I am still learning how to send e-mails to the organization...This is for John Daniel Cameron.Your Louisiana stop from Lackland to Keesler sounds like Opelousas,Louisiana,my old home town. The name of the club(diner) you stopped at was the Southern Club.It was about 2 miles west of Opelousas.The building did indeed look like a country store, but in reality was a bar, diner and dance hall. It was on Hwy 190 which was the only hwy you could travel in south La. to go east or west..This was before interstate hwy`s were in use..I witnessed many airmen stopping there as a youngster.The Southern Club also trained many a prospective airman how to eat,drink,dance and fight for later life in the Air Force..Thanks for the story of the famous Southern Club in Opelousas, Louisiana which now days is only a memory..Joe Dohmann

Heard about your website and name from an article in the Poughkeepsie Journal regarding the SAGE building @ Stewart Airport, Newburgh NY. Your website brought back a lot of old memories. Pictures of my old site in Alaska (744th), My involvement in SAGE, 412-L......... and Keesler.....I`m now going to go thru all my old pictures to see if you guys can use them........ Thanks for you effort......It is a great trip through history.... Regards Jerry Evans

To all veterans having served at USAF Radar Sites. The USAFRadarSitesVeterans has a reunion planned for Sept 10-14, 2006, at The National Museum of the United States Air Force, adjacent to Wright-Patterson AFB (Dayton, OH). Further information can be found on the “Unit Reunions” page to the left of this message, just below GUESTBOOK.

Re the story in the ``Poughkeepsie Journal`` regarding the old Stewart AFB SAGE Direction Center blockhouse: The story may be found on-line at www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060606/NEWS01/606060329/1006/. -- Tom

Re the ``Poughkeepsie Journal`` article---`A nondescript, windowless, concrete block of a building sits not far from the terminal at Stewart International Airport. Driving by, few would likely suspect the building was once a main cog in the nation`s air defenses during the Cold War. A chocolate factory operates in one side of the building`s first floor, but the war room has sat unused for years with remnants hinting at its former use, according to those who have been inside.` To the members of Radomes---who would have ever dreamed in the 60`s that what we were doing (and mostly enjoying) would, over the course of time, evolve into a candy factory!! Given enough time...anything is possible.

Heard about your website and name from an article in the Poughkeepsie Journal regarding the SAGE building @ Stewart Airport, Newburgh NY. Your website brought back a lot of old memories. Pictures of my old site in Alaska (744th), My involvement in SAGE, 412-L......... and Keesler.....I`m now going to go thru all my old pictures to see if you guys can use them........ Thanks for you effort......It is a great trip through history.... Regards Jerry Evans

To all veterans having served at USAF Radar Sites. The USAFRadarSitesVeterans has a reunion planned for Sept 10-14, 2006, at The National Museum of the United States Air Force, adjacent to Wright-Patterson AFB (Dayton, OH). Further information can be found on the “Unit Reunions” page to the left of this message, just below GUESTBOOK.

Re the story in the ``Poughkeepsie Journal`` regarding the old Stewart AFB SAGE Direction Center blockhouse: The story may be found on-line at www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060606/NEWS01/606060329/1006/. -- Tom

Re the ``Poughkeepsie Journal`` article---`A nondescript, windowless, concrete block of a building sits not far from the terminal at Stewart International Airport. Driving by, few would likely suspect the building was once a main cog in the nation`s air defenses during the Cold War. A chocolate factory operates in one side of the building`s first floor, but the war room has sat unused for years with remnants hinting at its former use, according to those who have been inside.` To the members of Radomes---who would have ever dreamed in the 60`s that what we were doing (and mostly enjoying) would, over the course of time, evolve into a candy factory!! Given enough time...anything is possible.

Was with 744th AC&W. Murphy Dome, 10/55 to 12/56. Anyone else out there at same time? E-Mail me. Philip

Member of 716th Radar Sq Kalispell AFS, Lakeside, Mt. Oct.1967 to Oct.1970

Was with 744th AC&W. Murphy Dome, 10/55 to 12/56. Anyone else out there at same time? E-Mail me. Philip

Member of 716th Radar Sq Kalispell AFS, Lakeside, Mt. Oct.1967 to Oct.1970

Does anyone know where Msgt Steve Austin or a Gary Platz might be at? Steve Austin was from Havre AFS Montans and SSGT Gary Platz was from Missouri. This is a great site. Thanks TSgt Bill Baker. AF Retired.

I was stationed at the 637th, Othello, Wa., from 1956 to 1960. In summer of 1959, I helped Jerry Turner build the brick barbecue, behind the NCO club. I was in touch with a couple troops from near the time the site closed in the mid 70s, who told me they were still using the bbq for picnics and parties, up until the site was shut down. After searching several years, I found Jerry Turner, in early 2002. He dug up a very good picture of the bbq, with a few of the 59 era troops standing by it. I submitted the picture for posting on the 637th site Radomes section and was informed that the picture is not appropriate for posting. I`ve been scratching my head, wondering about that, ever since. Looking at some of the other pictures I sent in (complements of Murrell F. Neblett, (then a major). of orderly room crew, mess hall, NCO Club bar, etc., It`s a puzzle to me that the bbq., which was known to troops for 15 years, does not qualify for posting on the site. I would welcome any input on the subject.

For John Breidford: Re your BBQ pit photo, sounds like some miscommunication. We certainly do use photos like the one you describe and other support-function / personnel shots; typically we use those types of pix as ``Documents.`` We use photos of the mission facilities (radar towers, operations, GATR, site as a whole, etc.) typically as vintage ``Photographs.`` So, there indeed is a place in the museum for your BBQ pit photo -- we can use it in a ``Document.`` Please re-send it to our webmaster, Gene McManus, and we`ll find a place for it. Thanks. And sorry for any confusion. -- Tom

Does anyone know where Msgt Steve Austin or a Gary Platz might be at? Steve Austin was from Havre AFS Montans and SSGT Gary Platz was from Missouri. This is a great site. Thanks TSgt Bill Baker. AF Retired.

I was stationed at the 637th, Othello, Wa., from 1956 to 1960. In summer of 1959, I helped Jerry Turner build the brick barbecue, behind the NCO club. I was in touch with a couple troops from near the time the site closed in the mid 70s, who told me they were still using the bbq for picnics and parties, up until the site was shut down. After searching several years, I found Jerry Turner, in early 2002. He dug up a very good picture of the bbq, with a few of the 59 era troops standing by it. I submitted the picture for posting on the 637th site Radomes section and was informed that the picture is not appropriate for posting. I`ve been scratching my head, wondering about that, ever since. Looking at some of the other pictures I sent in (complements of Murrell F. Neblett, (then a major). of orderly room crew, mess hall, NCO Club bar, etc., It`s a puzzle to me that the bbq., which was known to troops for 15 years, does not qualify for posting on the site. I would welcome any input on the subject.

For John Breidford: Re your BBQ pit photo, sounds like some miscommunication. We certainly do use photos like the one you describe and other support-function / personnel shots; typically we use those types of pix as ``Documents.`` We use photos of the mission facilities (radar towers, operations, GATR, site as a whole, etc.) typically as vintage ``Photographs.`` So, there indeed is a place in the museum for your BBQ pit photo -- we can use it in a ``Document.`` Please re-send it to our webmaster, Gene McManus, and we`ll find a place for it. Thanks. And sorry for any confusion. -- Tom