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04/01/2018 21:29:15

Name: Gene
Email: support AT

I managed to send a couple of erroneous emails to members about a new Echoes today. Please disregard, hit the wrong button!

03/20/2018 22:35:31

Name: Tom Page
Email: historian AT

Steve Weatherly: As we understand, the non-white radomes (dark blue, light blue, light green) are for aesthetics. These radomes were originally white, and then were painted.

The protruding metal rods indeed are for lightning protection.

All FAA tube-model long-range radars (i.e., ARSR-1, ARSR-2, ARSR-3, and AN/FPS-20 variants {a.k.a. ARSR-60}) were upgraded to become Common Air-Route Surveillance Radar (CARSR) types.

03/17/2018 03:35:10

Name: Steve Weatherly
Email: lweatherly4 AT has photos of some FAA sites that now use Common Air Route Surveillance Radar w/7172 antenna. Does anyone have answers to the following questions.

See Francis Peak, UT: Shows a dark painted rigid radome and also a white painted one for the CARSR. I wonder if the dark color is associated with a new radome and before it is painted white. This was true for most rubber inflatable AF radomes. In addition, dark colored radomes are heated by the sun and have been known to adversely impact the drive system lubrication of radar antennas. What is the radome nomenclature for these new FAA radomes now? There are also unusual devices appearing on the radome at about halfway between the radome equator and top. They look like long rods (with anchor cables) jutting out of the radomes in 4 locations around the outside surface. Are they for lightning protection or what purpose?

Note for Francis Peak: The smaller radar tower has an older rigid radome. It is apparently used by the UT ANG for communications equipment and not radar. Does this mean there is no equipment under the dome? If yes, this radome may be available to give to the NADRM. Why should the guard pay to maintain a radome if it is not needed.

Lincolnton, GA: What is the 7172 antenna (also at Francis Peak)? Perhaps it is used as part of frequency hopping anti-jam feature desired by the AF, or to enhance 3D and/or look-down capabilities.. Before 2009, the Radome in use for the ARSR=3 appears to be a rigid radome with panels attached together that are very obvious Later with the CARSR there is a rigid radome painted white and probably made using solid foam panels that result in a smooth surface much like we had when inflatable radomes were in wide spread use.

General: What was the FAA/AF Replacement Program for older ARSR -1, 2, 1/2 and 3s? It apparently was also associated with replacing older AF FPS 60 series (67) radars. I assume this replacement program is associated with the CARSR (Westinghouse and/or Northrup Grumman).

02/19/2018 17:54:13

Name: Gene
Email: support AT

Posting the flyer and registration form for the upcoming 15th reunion for the 664th AC&W and all radar Vets from all branches. Please consider joining us in June of 2018 for a fantastic 3 day reunion at the former Air Force base in Bellefontain, Ohio. You can print the registration form and send it back along with payment. If you don't have a means to print, you can just put the required information on a plain sheet of paper instead and send that along with payment to the listed address. If you need any questions answered, you may contact Catherine Eastman, the 664th secretary and reunion planner, via email,, or Facebook messenger. Hope to see you there!

You can get a PDF copy of the brochure and registration form at

01/13/2018 00:00:00

Name: Tom Page
Email: historian AT

Just a reminder to the membership and to our visitors, we have a Facebook counterpart to this web-based museum. Please visit and join us at See you there.

01/06/2018 14:17:58

Name: Gene
Email: support AT

Hard drive imaging scheduled for tonight has been postponed to a future date.

12/26/2017 21:53:27

Name: Steve Weatherly
Email: lweatherly4 AT

Bad news for the former Almaden AFS radar tower (FPS-24) on Mt Umunhum, CA.

The recent Dec 17 vote of the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District (Midpen) to grant the Amah Mutsun Tribal Band a cultural conservation easement on Mount Umunhum is a decision that will have negative and lasting effects for generations to come. It prevents a unique opportunity for access to and use of the FPS-24 radar tower. This historic landmark was expected to serve as a means to enrich the public knowledge about local and national military history and event associated with the air defenses of the United States during the Cold War.

An excellent editorial by Basim Jabar (Historian for the Almaden Air Force Station / 682nd Radar Squadron) about the radar tower’s future is available at:

Basim has made the following observations about the Midpen decision.

a) No decision should have been made about the Radar Tower in the context of the tribal conservation easement. The two have nothing to do with one another. The inclusion (in the conservation easement to the tribe) of the decision to lock out any future use of the Radar Tower was not a fair move.

b) Both the tribe and Midpen need to agree to amend this quitclaim deed to remove the clause limiting the future use and access to the radar tower.

c) Military history on Mt. Umunhum should not be squelched... it should have the same opportunity that the tribe has been given to tell their history. This isn’t about “military veterans vs the tribe” (which is what Midpen will make it out to be). This is about equality and fairness.

We need to show our concern over a bad decision for Mt Umunhum/Almaden AFS. Suggest your feedback and comments for consideration by Midpen be sent to:

Jordan McDaniel
Public Affairs Administrative Assistant
Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District
330 Distel Circle, Los Altos, CA 94022
P: (650) 691-1200 F: (650) 691-0485
twitter: @mrosd

Please include an info copy for Basim Jabar (, the Guestbook page on, and/or Radar Station Veterans.
Steve Weatherly
689th Radar Squadron , Mt Hebo AFS 65-67
Site of a former FPS-24 Radar Tower (60-84)

12/17/2017 15:01:45

Name: Tom Page
Email: historian AT

Question for all the ADC Gap-Filler radar veterans:

Was Bunnell GFA, FL (Z-114A) the only site that had a squadron sign mounted on top of the radar building?

12/13/2017 23:48:33

Name: Stephen Weatherly
Email: lweatherly4 AT

Sorry to learn that the VA has problems with the Veteran ID effort. Apparently the volume of users has overloaded their system. They indicate that if you leave your email address with them you will be contacted when they are up and running again. How long will this go on?

12/02/2017 11:33:41

Name: Stephen Weatherly
Email: lweatherly4 AT

Finally the VA is issuing the Federal Veteran ID Card which was authorized in 2015. Here is the information that my House of Representative's member (Vern B) forwarded about these free ID cards.

Veterans can now document their service without carrying around official military records (such as their DD-Form 214).

The new IDs will not, however, qualify as official government-issued identification for air travel or other uses. The ID card program is voluntary. This card also does not replace the Retiree ID Card (DD-Form 2 Retired).

To request an ID, veterans must visit Vets.Gov, click on “Apply for Printed Veteran ID Card” on the bottom left of the page and sign in or create an account.